View Poll Results: What do we do about the human overpopuation of the Earth?

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    Anyone who does reality TV should be on the B Ark.
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    as access to education and information continues to spread, we will see fewer and fewer people having babies
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Qwertius Click here to enlarge
    So which of those two options will you be personally taking up ?

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    the biggest problem is Asia with nearly 4.5 billion with eugenics i would reduce it to around 350 million, Europe i would reduce to 300 million .. in the 1980s Netherlands and Sweden had similar population to Scotland of just over 5 million 30 years later Scotland is still around the same mark whilst the Netherlands has tripled and Sweden almost doubled their populations ... i would reduce Africa's population down to 200 million and North America down to 200 million

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jason101 Click here to enlarge
    Anyone who does reality TV should be on the B Ark.
    hey cool - I can get my phone sanitized...
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    Will their be dogs on the B Ark?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by gimpduck Click here to enlarge
    This area is for polls only if you want to discuss the subject of the poll in depth then create a thread for this in the appropriate area.
    Just a point of clarification, gimpduck.
    What are posts in the Polls Galore section supposed to contain if not discussion of the poll?
    And what would be "the appropriate area" for discussion?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Vilk Click here to enlarge
    as access to education and information continues to spread, we will see fewer and fewer people having babies
    Sorry, but I disagree with this. if you accidentally watch the Jeremy Kyle show (accidentally is the key word), education and information appears to be severely lacking to the 'class' of the contestants appearing. Until the bandwidth of persona intelligence is narrowed and employment is widened, you will never succeed in getting a reduced population growth.

    This is only my personal opinion
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    We have to stop playing God and helping the people as much as we do in the third world because at the present rate our current societies will be gone in 70 years as the multiple birth societies take over (World Health organization 1981)
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    I'm not for global population control, but aren't there areas where overpopulation should be a concern?
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    I agree with frosty57 as the western birthrate decreases from 2.1 children per couple the rate needed to keep a culture alive to 1.5.
    Asia and muslium countries birth levels are at 5.6.
    The culture of the werstern world is in trouble. In France its too late.
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    ...all true, but...
    ...as we live on a finite earth, infinite growth is a death sentence for mankind.

    ...how to solve that? no idea!

    but: endorsement of population growth is a very bad concept...
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    in the 1980s India had a population of just 600 million now they are on the verge of passing China as the most populated country and half the size of China

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Vilk Click here to enlarge
    as access to education and information continues to spread, we will see fewer and fewer people having babies
    It seems unfortunate that only the educated masses will decrease
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    Nature has shown it has a way of correcting things when they get too far out of balance.
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    What population level would most people like to see the human race at?

    Personally I'd like it to be at least 50% of what we have now. But how we get it at that level I don't know. I'd just prefer it be now and voluntary rather than in the near future and imposed on us by nature or the environment.

    I certainly wouldn't like to see a Blade Runner or Elysium style future.
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    This has absolutely nothing to do with 'there's room for everybody'.
    It has everything to do with diminishing resources.

    Soylent Green and variants seem inevitable.
    We're killing off so many animals that there is a poop shortage for fertilizing the land.
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    Humans won't even contribute: a cadaver in a box is a wasted resource.
    I can't think of any sci-fi dystopian nightmare that isn't



    Nature has shown it has a way of correcting things when they get too far out of balance.
    I soon as I read this (this is no dig) I had the 'insight' that that could be exactly what is happening. If a species insists on conquering nature rather than cooperating, is it so far fetched to think that nature would cause said species to turn on itself?
    Maybe the lust humans have for bloody warfare has an organic origin.
    I am a temporary biological event existing in an indifferent universe.
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    A father working 12+ hours a day at a factory to put food on his family's table, probably doesn't care about saving whales or field mice. Humans are not as tuned in to the global collective as some would like us to think. Look...as much as the rock and whale huggers would like you to believe, this planet is never going to morph into the blessed Utopia. Human nature is not improving and regardless of what the humanist wants you to think, mankind can not save itself. We are self destructive by nature. Sooner or later, when the population reaches 20 or 30 billion, an alien or divine reset button will be pushed. There won't be anything left of us other than some scorched DNA and dust.
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    I find it interesting that we sit here and most of us can see the problem yet! We are powerless to do anything.
    As I said before we are moving to many people around the world to fix problems, Why do women in Ethiopia have 5 and 6 children because they need that many for the strong ones to survive, yet we see their dying as an issue and try to bring them to our countries,
    where in 3 decades we will be taken over because of simple mathematics we have 2 kids per family and they will have 6 or 8 or more because they are healthier and western medicine will help keep them alive.
    In Ethiopia the average life span is 35 years bring them here and it will be 80 years plus, so do the maths Climate change is not the issue over population by 3rd world countries and the demise of 1st world cultures will be the result.
    My kids and I have 3 have only had 4 between them not the required 6.1 to keep the natural balance so they will be extinct in 3 generations unless others have more kids.
    I do have to laugh thought these are the same kids says stop the over population of the world but they all support brings all the refugees here where they will have / are having a population boom

    The catholic church is as much to blame with their no contraception rules, and no gays, because that leads to no new children to support the doctrines of the catholic church (think about that for a second)

    So here we go round on the Merry Go Round.
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    Odd that those were your only choices.
    Given the failures in population control tried so far, more options than you listed would seem appropriate.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laceykat66 Click here to enlarge
    Odd that those were your only choices.
    Given the failures in population control tried so far, more options than you listed would seem appropriate.
    Reasonable solutions or magic.
    Control or catastrophe.

    Those are the only choices I can see.
    But I mold...er...I'm old, and I'm pessimistic about humans, as a group, doing the right thing before the fit hits the shan.
    Everything else I think of smacks of fantasy: the Pope could wake up tomorrow morning and decide to say that god told him he changed his mind and now everyone can use condoms.
    Who's gonna argue?

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    Do we actually have to embrace disease, war and pestilence as 'natural solutions'?
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    Point being: please, by all means, if you have viable options, you are more than welcome.
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    at this point we need to look into the options available to us even if we dont like them
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    Maybe if we stopped interfering and let Evolution work there would not be so much of a problem ...
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    Seems to me if 'evolution' was allowed to run its natural course, humans would still be dying in their thirties and forties, and that might actually have been very helpful in terms of a 'balanced' approach.
    But humans continue to 'interfere', to subvert and conquer evolutionary disadvantages by finding ways to stay alive beyond the natural 'good until..' shelf dates.
    My contention is that the continued 'we're special!' expansion of human life is , in my opinion, suicidal on a planetary scale.
    I am a temporary biological event existing in an indifferent universe.
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